Jane Doe 4
So Ellie Leonard has an interesting article on Jane Doe 4 that is illuminating regarding the timeline, although it does raise some questions
I talked a bit about this victim prior to her being named Jane Doe 4
Ellie shows that Jane Doe 4’s mother buys a house in October 1981 in Hilton Head for $55,000. That was not very expensive (20% below median) but mortgage rates were very high (18%) . Hopefully she paid cash. In any event it sounds like a place they would have moved into ASAP consistent with her moving during the school year
FBI summary quotes in bold italics
She moved to South Carolina with her mother and brothers during approximately her last year of elementary school. [late 1981-age 12-13] She remained on [the Island] until she was approximately 16 years old she recalled she possibly started 11th grade there prior to moving to South Carolina [mainland] with her mother and brother,
We know she says she attends a Rick James concert in Savannah in 1982. She said in the interview she was around 15 [13-14?] when she attended the concert.
When she was approximately 15 years old, she went to a Rick James concert with her friend and mother in Savannah, Georgia. EPSTEIN was at the concert and surprised her. When she saw EPSTEIN she knew she had to go with him. She recalled EPSTEIN had a flask and “got her drunk”. She was also high on marijuana. He kept her isolated at the concert so long that and mother left her, and drove back to the Island. They later told her they looked for her for a long period of time. She stated that she imagined they were terrified when they could not find her. She could not recall the entire evening; however, she knew that EPSTEIN left her at some point, and she found herself walking around alone, high on marijuana. She kept thinking, “how am I going to get back to the Island. I’ve been left here, I have no way to get home.” At some point while was walking around, the police picked her up.
Going to a Rick James concert would be a huge thing for a teenager and something that would be remembered for decades, so its doubtful that did not happen even if she misremembered her age. Pretty surprising her mother leaves her w/o reporting to her missing to police.
Her mother was hired by Bill Jones Realty in 1983. So what was she doing from 1981-1983?
From the article she was either 13 ,15 or 16 in December 1983. If she attended the Rick James concert at age 13-14 in summer of 1982 that means she is probably the 15-year old mentioned in the article.
We don’t have a DOB so are really just guessing
At some point her mother works for Harbor Reality which is owned by Jim Atkins, who allegedly partnered with Epstein to blackmail her mother over photos Epstein tool . So her mother actually worked for Jim Atkins and embezzled the money from his company.
She estimated she met Atkins when she was approximately [14 ] 15 years old, and recalled meeting him in her mother’s office; however, she did not know why he was in her mother’s office initially. she could not recall how her mother and ATKINS were originally introduced
Seems she didnt know her mother worked for Jim Atkins.
He developed a romantic relationship with her mother who he claimed heloved, but mother appeared annoyed with him at times. They dated for approximately a year
ATKINS and his accountant (Black male named “Cecil” Last Name Unknown) assisted mother in “fixing” her real estate books so that she could embezzle funds and pay EPSTEIN. At some point, ATKINS, EPSTEIN and possibly CECIL turned her mother in to the Real Estate Commission by providing her accurate real estate book/records
Are we really to believe our Epstein is blackmailing her mother for a paltry $22,000. This is chump change for him. By early 1986 she is probably 17 by my math and no longer living on the Island according to her story where she left sometime during her junior year in HS at age 16
Do we have anything that connected Epstein to Hilton Head in the early 80’s? He is working with Douglas Leese at this time before hooking up with Stanley Pottinger in NY in 1984. Lots of people had bookshelves with books in the 1980’s because people read books then.
There was a Southern Trust that showed up in the Epstein Files that showed up in a 2013,Deutsche Bank due diligence search showing a Southern Trust established in 1984 in Southern Carolina
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA01299072.pdf
Southern Trust Company” is a very generic corporate name. Many unrelated companies use this naming pattern. It doesn’t automatically imply a connection to:
• Jeffrey Epstein
• his businesses like
• Southern Trust Company
• Financial Trust Company
• Southern Trust Company of Delaware
Many unrelated firms share similar names.
His auditor for IGY-AVH St Thomas Holdings, LLC is in South Carolina. But Epstein had no businesses in St Thomas until the 90’s
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA01078055.pdf
And his plane has flown into Hilton Head Island Airport according to emails/flight logs, but Epstein didn’t own a plane until the 90’s
Anyways, back to Jane Doe 4. In 2023 she was arrested for taking money from a dying man saving for his funeral. This is after her settlement with the Estate so we can only conclude the estates settlement was rather paltry. She had already been rejected by the Victims Compensation Fund so she probably had such a weak case that her lawyers would have been willing to settle low.
As Ellie said she was represented by Lisa Bloom, daughter of Gloria Allred, and lawyer for one of the most significant cases in this entire investigation: Katie Johnson.
That should raise eyebrows because Katie Johnson just disappeared and this one did not do much better. Curiously both cases involve Trump and include his victims biting his dick.
Ellie wonders at how the victims can have such similar stories
But there was one other thing that stood out to me, and I will include a trigger warning here just for clarification. Doe mentioned that one way Epstein abused her was by tugging at her nipples, something described in multiple other survivors’ interviews. A small detail, though just as damaging, but curious to hear the same form of abuse across the gamut of women’s stories.
I actually don’t remember too many cases of credible witnesses saying Epstein was physically abusive to the girls, thats mostly Trump. Epstein also didn’t drink and allegedly didn’t like girls who were drugged, but I guess we can imagine his tastes changed since we can manufacture our own reality these days
As for commonality in many victims stories, and there is, the answer is pretty simple. Victim memories become contaminated with other victims stories. Thats why it helps to verify when the victim first tells their story, before or after these stories became public.
It may well be this victim is recounting personal experiences but has introduced false memories such as the abusers being Epstein and Trump
Consider this from Maxwells Habeus Petition
Witness Tampering
New Evidence reveals that the accusers’ lawyers were coordinating working with journalists and the Government to create the narrative that Ghislaine had found and paid the women who were subsequently to become her accusers.
Giuffre met with “new” victims and with new victims’ lawyers and members of the press at the same time, allowing for contamination and poisoning of memory and the transference of memory from one witness accuser to another.
Trial witnesses travelled together pre-Ghislaine’s trial to the US Open - arranged by the accusers’ lawyers - after the termination of the proceedings against Jeffrey Epstein following his death, permitting further transference of memories.
Anouska De Georgiou spoke of the “sisterhood” communicating in a “group chat” with every one of the accusers. This contributed to transference and contamination of memory.
Jane Doe 84 (Victim #1 from Epstein’s 2019 indictment) reported participating in ‘Group therapy’ with other witnesses allowing for transference of testimony and contamination of memory in that context.
The above shows the collusion and transference, contamination and poisoning of stories between accusers and trial witnesses. Their lawyers revealed that the accusers consumed media - much of which was untrue - and made managing the expectation for how much money they would receive in compensation the hardest part of their job.
This contradicts the Government’s arguments to the trial jury that:
Lawyers were all separate
There was no collusion between the partiesThe witnesses did not consume media
The lawyers had no financial motivations. They had identified accusers’ lawyers from public documents. Accusers’ lawyers had played no role in instigating the investigation
We now know these assertions were false.
So thats all I got to say
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Ps-I really hate defending Trump or Epstein but the search for Truth compels it.